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Do you support bringing light rail to the Sunshine Coast and how would you benefit?

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  • Ian Wright about 4 years ago
    What about the property devaluations that you will incur. Cars will have to doge the light rail as it at the same level as the cars and your small children will be at risk. As speed humps slowed the ambulances and fire engines' getting to rescue, you the light rail will do the same. Driving on rail lines are a danger as can be seen on the gold Coast, Even the police have problems as we have seen on the Local TV.To the shop keepers, The construction on the Gold Coast cause most shops to shut the streets where a ghost town.
  • drad over 4 years ago
    I live directly on one of the proposed routes in Kawana.I would want to know more about what disruption I would expect during construction and after completion. Will it be safe for my children during construction? Will it be noisy? What will happen to the park that lies directly in the path of the proposal?
  • Keith over 4 years ago
    The light rail on the Gold coast is a bit of an eyesore and has carved a wide swathe through the City. Running a light rail along the foreshore of Mooloolaba and Maroochydore beaches and the foreshores of the river near the marina is a very serious decision. The amenity of the foreshore is at stake and can never be restored.
  • Brackenboy over 4 years ago
    I like the idea of light rail, however I think this should be financed by the state government and that council should not be involved financially. If the council is involved it will mean that all ratepayers will be paying for it regardless of whether we will ever use it, eg: the hinterland residents of Beerwah, Maleny, Nambour, and all places in between. Going on their past record this will be a financial nightmare if Mayor Jamieson has anything to do with it.
  • Noel over 4 years ago
    You cannot discount the tourism potential of a project like this as well as the fact that it will be used by very many locals as well, I am right behind the project, just a little scared at the price tag. However having said that without forward thinking and huge capital expenditure on projects like the Snowy River scheme, where would Australia be today? It take foresight and guts to actually do something for the future rather than just worry about what it cost now. I think future generations will applaud the Sunshine Coast light rail scheme and in fact expand on it.
  • electrologic over 4 years ago
    railmanMost light rail systems are city-based where population densities justify the infra-structure capital expenditure. The Sunshine Coast population will not be dense enough to justify a light rail system, even including Caloundra South.The price tag for the proposed system appears to be far in excess of other system which included land procurement! The cost of the tram/train ticket will of course include the total capital cost. This will reduce the attractiveness of the system. What will be a very good and worthwhile investment is a heavy rail link from beerburrum via caloundra, maroochydore and coolum as was proposed many times before. This will reduce traffic both on the Bruce and Nicklin roads. Many of these users are not shopping customers and do not need motorcars for this type of journey.The success of most Metro system is frequency, in other words people do not like waiting. Because of the cost involved, in many cities, small (mini) buses are used to provide high frequency, local transport. There is no reason why these buses cannot be electric. As the buses use existing infra-structure, ticket costs can be kept low, encouraging use of the system. No matter what we like to believe, the Sunshine coast area will be grid-locked during peak-hours as we cannot build roads quick enough to cater for the increase in motor car use. This is a world-wide problem, not unique to our Coast.Unfortunately, there is no single, easy solution to traffic management problems.
  • lizzidman over 4 years ago
    If a survey about extending the Heavy Rail network from Beerwah / Landsborough to Noosa was floated with the same enthusiasm as this Light Rail proposal, then it would be interesting to see what the results would look like. I see it quoted that 100 cities around the world have Light Rail, it does not say whether they also have Heavy Rail. The earthworks for the Heavy Rail extension to Morton Bay are underway now, why can't Sunshine Coast be next to have a Heavy Rail network? I see a dotted line on older maps marked as "proposed railway line" so the easements required probably exist. The Light Rail proposal for me is no different to the current Bus Service, still a 600 metre walk, maybe save your money and make the current Bus system work better.
  • Peekay over 7 years ago
    If light rail is not operating by 2025, the Sunshine Motorway, Nicklin Way and other major roads in the Sunshine Coast area will be "gridlocked" ie roads will be completely jammed with stationary motor vehicles as occurs on the Gateway Motorway between Bruce Highway and Gateway Bridge when collisions and roll overs occur on this section of road. The State Govt should also "fast track"(pardon the pun) commencement date for the CAMCOS rail project between Beerwah Station and Maroochydore.
    • trigger over 7 years ago
      From Trigger,Peekay has said it all, we can see the gridlocks and stupid driveing now. And of course a bit of road rage.Its all part of the planning which we do not see here. But this planning does happen in Singapore, Finland, Sweden and Denmark and probaly other enlightend countries that I have not been to.Here it seems that getting all the people here and selling as many blocks as possible is the aim.The infrastructure has to be in place to move the people. And the transport infrastucture has to efficent to get people to and from work. One just has to see all the cars parked by workers at the Caloundra hospital and U insurance by 8 am in the morning, they shpuld be able to go to work and home again by an efficent public transport like they do in Helsinki and other well planned places I have seen. Light rail is just part of what is needed
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  • amp-qld over 7 years ago
    First up, I would say that I agree entirely that the Sunshine Coast needs a drastically improved public transport system based around line haul principles. Over the last 40 years, I have developed concepts for both light rail and busway systems on various continents.Light rail is a very expensive and rigid form of rapid transit. The critical advantage is having its own right of way. Busways can provide all the advantages of light rail at a fraction of the cost if they have their own rights of way. Unfortunately, the Brisbane Busways have been built to standards that are more appropriate for heavy rail and are thus extremely expensive. The only noticeable advantage that light rail has over Busways is image, so important to politicians. The website claims that, because light rail capacity is 3.6 more than a bus, light rail can carry more passengers. However, station constraints mean that this is rarely true. It also claims that light rail produces seven times less emissions than buses. Again, for modern LNG or even diesel buses operating in a Busway, this is not accurate. In off-peak periods, the larger nature of light rail vehicles means that they operate at lower occupancy rates, increasing costs and pollution per passenger km or resulting in a less frequent service for the same capacity.Whereas a light rail system requires passengers to interchange (with accompanying delays and interchange penalties) at the ends of the fixed line haul section, buses can also operate away from the line haul sections, offering more convenient through routes.I have seen no evidence that an appropriate Busway system has been given a fair comparison to a light rail system for the Sunshine Coast. Such a system could provide a larger network at lower costs and, as shown in cities such as Runcorn, Curitiba and Ottawa, generate practically the same urban generation or regeneration abilities as light rail.
    • Glenn over 7 years ago
      Hi AMPYes I agree with your comments. light rail / mono etc will have to be as fast and frequent as taking your own car. Also with in the same cost. I have travelled from Taipei to Kaohsiung in Taiwan, now they have the rail system on the money, 300km/hr. Anything we put in and rate payers cover the costs must be as fast as the bus/car system.
    • Light Rail 2020 Project Team over 7 years ago
      The pre-feasibility study work undertaken in Phase 1, which is expected to conclude in May 2012 will develop a shortlist of project scope and delivery options to be subjected to a full feasibility study in Phase 2. Alternative technology solutions, including bus options will be considered. This will include a bus rapid transit option utilising buses operating a separate corridor, similar to light rail options. The pre-feasibility analysis will include consideration of the very extensive analysis undertaken for the Gold Coast Rapid Transit project, where a bus rapid transit option was compared to light rail. At the conclusion of that analysis, all three levels of government supported a light rail solution. The reasons for this decision are stated in the documentation for the Gold Coast Rapid Transit system at pages 51 – 53 of the Draft Concept Design and Impact Management Plan, which can be found on the project website reasons stated by the Gold Coast Rapid Transit Project choice of light rail included:• System capacity: Light rail can carry more people than bus rapid transit;• Proven technology: Light rail can be found in over 100 cities around the world;• Future demand: Light rail is a modular system and capacity can be increased to meet demand growth;• City building: Light rail has been demonstrated to support population and economic growth;• Value for money: Over 30 and 50 years there was only a minimal cost difference between a light rail and a bus rapid transit solution. Light rail has been shown to be more attractive to the private sector;• Levels of service: Light rail is proven to provide a reliable service and achieve superior levels of passenger comfort; and• Community preference: Unsolicited feedback from stakeholders and the community indicated a preference for light railFor the Sunshine Coast, the project team believes a similar result would occur, since the project objectives and the planned service requirements will be similar to the Gold Coast. However, a cheaper bus solution might be appropriate if light rail cannot be afforded in the initial years of the project. In May 2012 Council will consider the findings of the pre-feasibility, Phase 1 study, as well as very extensive feedback from the community and will determine what technology options are carried through to the full feasibility process, Phase 2, which is expected to prepare a full business case and determine a preferred solution.
  • JRC over 7 years ago
    The question isn't 'if', but 'when'. Oil production has already peaked. Light rail should have been introduced to the coast a decade ago. Heavy rail would be even better. The coast certaily has the population to warrant it. It is insanity to be pouring hundreds of millions into road making when petrol/diesel prices are going to rise very steeply in the not-to-distant future.
  • StanGage over 7 years ago
    Light rail becomes viable once the population reaches 500,000.Our population is expected to reach 500,000 in 2031. That's 20 years!Until then, we need to improve the bus network - fast, convenient, regular.We will still need the bus network even after light rail is built to take the passengers to their final destinations.So for the next 20 years, we need to improve the buses. They are the only form of public transport that we have on the coast.
  • karmaldan over 7 years ago
    I live in Tewantin. There's no mention of the light rail including the northern end of the Sunshine coast which is a shame. I would have like to have seen it cover this area right down to Caloundra. Just to get to Brisbane via rail is a pain as I have to drive to Nambour if I want a return trip. So a light rail does not have any benefits for us up here.
    • Light Rail 2020 Project Team over 7 years ago
      Just where the light rail service will operate on the Sunshine Coast will be part of the feasibility planning. Some areas of the Sunshine Coast don’t have the population to sustain light or heavy rail, nor the environment to suit its accompanying infrastructure. That may change in the future. The proposed stage one corridor for light rail will most likely be Maroochydore to Caloundra however this will have a flow on affect to the whole Sunshine Coast with better public transport services across the entire region. Light rail is like a ‘spine’ and will be supported by more bus services, modified routes and better connections which will reduce travel times to areas not directly serviced by a light rail service.
  • fruitforest over 7 years ago
    It is not tram that is important but a dedicated transport route that is fast and efficient with very frequent bus/trams so you can just go along and know you will be picked up within 10mins or 15mins so don't need to worry about timetables. It needs to be almost as quick and easy as using a car, and certainly cheaper if travelling alone or with one other person.The great thing about trains is that the route and stops are very clear. For example in London I will always use theunderground rather than buses as it is so clear to see how to get from A to BI have used a tram system in Manchester UK which is great as it is direct along an old rail route until it hits the city centre, when it goes along the streets. This is the ultimate solution when fitting a new system into an exiting town. On the SC there may be places where a dedicated route could exist in places, but in heavily developed areas the tram/bus could use the roads.
  • arcobelina over 7 years ago
    will light rail zigzag through the suburbs or just travel up nicklin way and the motorway?the light rail will have to support the suburbs
    • Light Rail 2020 Project Team over 7 years ago
      In this stage of feasibility planning the fine detail of routes has not been established. The chosen corridors and exact location of services will be based on potential demand, surrounding land use and environment, and practical considerations such as location of stations and stops, physical barriers, such as winding roads, hills, rivers etc. Light rail is considered a ‘spine’ to an overall public transport system and yes in many areas it is more likely to operate on main roads such as Nicklin Way. However, the point of improving public transport and introducing light rail is to make it accessible and to generate patronage, so while it may not ‘zig zag’ through small side streets like a bus, it would service popular major residential, business and retail precincts. It would also be supported by more bus services, modified routes and better connections which will reduce travel times to areas not directly serviced by a light rail service.
  • hailrail over 7 years ago
    I fully support the introduction of light rail to the Coast. I would be a regular user of it - probably daily, depending on work/living arrangements. But it needs to be better set up and managed than our current bus network. The key pillars of success of any of the world's excellent public transport systems are: efficiency, cost-effectiveness, reliability and flexibility in response to changing passenger needs. I would argue the buses currently don't tick any of those boxes. Excuse my ignorance, but how is light rail powered? Is solar an option? I have always thought our buses should run on solar generated power (reducing fuel costs and therefore ticket prices). I mean, this is the Sunshine Coast...we have a fair bit of sunshine, right?
  • latitude26 over 7 years ago
    Yes, though if we are thinking of this at all, we need to consider the whole coast right up to Noosa/Tewantin. Australian culture is been totally focussed on the car as the primary mode of transport especially in lower density regional areas. I'm not sure if i would benefit that much due to the likley 20+years until it is operational but my children might and their children ........ WE NEED STRONG POLITICIANS WHO THINK BIG PICTURE!
    • Free2B over 7 years ago
      Exactly - all politicians, particularly those in a region which is moving from a village to a regional context MUST be "Big Picture" people. Parochial loyalists and single issue bandwagon thumpers will not lead the Sunshine Coast to a positive future for all aspects of life - quality of living, employment, environmental responsibility, mobility, affordability, etc. We are a region of only around 300K people - a small city in world terms. We need only ONE major central CBD and sports and cultural and health hubs with affordable (for the users), frequent (max 20 minute wait time) and efficient (max 5 minute delay) public transport connections to the Coast's suburban villages (from Pomona to Beerwah to Maleny). Now is the time to get this network sorted, before the cost of land acquisition becomes prohibitive and the best routes are downgraded to "this will do".Get the plan and routes and land acquisition sorted NOW and establish the key hubs, then add the routes (bus then light rail) as funds permit.
  • mudsec over 7 years ago
    I am in favour of planning for the city of the future having an advanced public transport system. Fast connection from the airport and also from intrastate rail services is essential. The trick is, putting value in the appropriate places, by having the right mix of transport services. Buses certainly serve a purpose here and will also become greener with new technologies. Light rail is the fastest and most comfortable medium, and would attract many travellers away from cars. My primary wish in this regard, is having a light rail connection to Nambour and or Landsborough rail Stations, to provide through services to other Queensland cities.
  • phonehunter over 7 years ago
    Whatever the outcome, the system should be a tourist attraction in its own right. Much like Kuranda's sky lift, it should be both practical and elegant solution.
  • judyo over 7 years ago
    I think that a light rail network would be a great asset to the Sunshine Coast, especially along the coastal strip, with extensions to inland towns as needed. The beauty of light rail is the ability to extend the network as needed, once the initial lines are set up. It is a quick and flexible system. I remember when it is initially set up in San Diego, California, and started with two lines, which were eventually extended over a period of a few years to a reasonably large network. It was very popular, efficient, and cheap to travel on.
  • Elisa over 7 years ago
    Transport on the Sunshine Coast is more than just a joke now. This is a serious issue that needs to be acted on now before our state of transport terminally cripples the future of our beautiful region. The light rail is the environmentally responsible answer to our transport woes while protecting the ecology of the coast. The light rail will bring more students to the region and importantly will be the reason why we retain those students once they graduate where at the moment we are losing many of our most talented graduates to the cities because of lack of infrastructure. Transport is the crux of any successful town or city. A rapidly growing destination needs to have the support of an innovative council and community in order to sustain and profit from that growth. The potential positive impact the light rail will have on local tourism is enormous. If the light rail does not go ahead as proposed I for one will be bitterly disappointed with my community and disheartened with what future of the Sunshine Coast holds for me.
  • bsquared over 7 years ago
    I am a mechanical engineer involved in the design, manufacture, testing and maintenance of railway rolling stock and appreciate the value of light rail. However the Sunshine Coast is lacking in the one most important link to the outside world of transport and that is the much mooted but undelivered CAMCOS. This is more important than a localised light rail system and should be in situ before any light rail system is implemented. Moreover the light rail route must not interfere with the CAMCOC corridore in any way. If the light rail is to cross the CAMCOS corridore it must be above grade. The light rail system must be integrated into the CAMCOS in that the light rail should be a feeder to the CAMCOS not a replacement for it. The light rail should be a loop system rather than a longitudinal system. In other words it should run along the coastal strip between Caloundra to Noosa/Tewantin and loop around through the hinterland towns of Cooroy/Eumundi, Yandina, Nambour, etc and back through Caloundra. This will ensure that the whole region benefits from the system. A loop system will also have the benefit of being able to provid minor loops to service other population centres within or outside the main loop. The largest expense will be in establishing the light rail corridore, which once established will only require track and drainage maintenance toghether with equipment maintenance. The next largest expense will be the rolling stock and its ongoing maintenance.Politically this is not a once in a while item, this requires continued commitment without waivering so that once the process is commenced it is completed in the shortest possible time because history tells us that the longer it goes on the more costly it becomes.
    • riskmanagement over 7 years ago
      Bsquared has valid and practical points. One only needs to look at the GCRT project where they have considered connecting the current phase with the Gold Coast – Brisbane rail. This may now happen at Helensvale as part of the Commonwealth Game success.I agree that the biggest costs are easement and rolling stock. Concentrating on easement is paramount as there is flexibility regarding rolling stock/buses.
    • Joe Riba over 7 years ago
      I agree. CAMCOS is essential, as is a connection with it. I also agree that making sure that land is reserved is the priority. How would a system that runs through the Hinterland be funded? It would require more track but would it also require more rolling stock so that timetables are workable? I would be intersted to hear if people in the Hinterland would use light rail.
    • Admin Commented Project Administrator over 7 years ago
      The proposed light rail is planned to connect with the future sunshine coast rail line from Beerwah to Maroochydore. It is not a replacement for the rail service to Brisbane. Council is currently planning the light trail project, while the sunshine coast rail line (previously known as CAMCOS) remains a Queensland Government project. A loop system for light rail transport is not being considered. The service would provide a spine connecting the major destinations along the more intensively developed coastal precincts. The hinterland towns will rely on bus connections to the light rail system.
  • dormouse over 7 years ago
    I used the light rail in Perth WA from the northern suburbs to the city over a period of seven years ..... and can only say it was a dismal FAILURE as parking anywhere near the stations was always completely unavailable regardless of time and day. As usual a good idea collapses with lack of serious planning for Park and Ride so count me out. I would much prefer a shorter more efficient direct service to Brisbane ..... once again, no parking is available at Landsborough or other stations serving the Sunshine Coast.Ten years ago we arrived on the coast and there was talk of extended rail lines .... a case of too much talk and no action .... how many more expensive "studies" do we need?? Pardon my cynicism - in whose lifetime will we see progress ... our current newborns??
    • riskmanagement over 7 years ago
      Dormouse, the WA line north of Perth is not a light rail and has parking restriction as it has been build between major roads. Not a reasonable comparison.Having travelled to Brisbane from Landsborough and Palmwood, I would disagree about insufficient parking.
    • trigger over 7 years ago
      Trigger,If the panning was done properly one should only have to walk a short distance to catch a bus to the light raikl staion. That is how it is in Scandinavia. People plan their day and know what time they have to leave home to get to work, do their shopping etc. We have relied to much on the car where planning for a trip is not so critical. But very soon it will be, because how many more cars can we fit on our roads before we have grid lock. One stupid accident by some one in a hurry and the whole road could be blocked for hours. People will just have to get used to planning their day and use public transport.
    • Admin Commented Project Administrator over 7 years ago
      The light rail is planned to connect with the future sunshine coast rail line from Beerwah to Maroochydore. It is not a replacement for the rail service to Brisbane. Council is currently planning the light trail project, while the sunshine coast rail line (previously known as CAMCOS) remains a Queensland Government project. The northern suburbs railway in Perth is not a light rail but a regional commuter railway connecting the northern suburbs to Perth and the rest of the region. Light rail is a more local transit mode, is much lower impact and can mix with traffic in road corridors as well as short sections of running through pedestrian malls.As the system is developed park and ride opportunities will be provided where possible, especially at the very ends of the network. However because the light rail system will be constructed mostly within existing urban areas, the majority of passengers would be likely to access the light rail either by walking, cycling or using a feeder bus system from areas where the light rail rail does not travel. It will also link directly with the planned Sunshine Coast Railway connecting Maroochydore with Beerwah and then to Brisbane. Park and ride facilities are very land intensive and expensive to provide and maintain, with an average of $ 10 000 being required per car space. Since park and ride patrons do not expect to pay for using the car space, there is no direct revenue return and no way to manage demand for spaces, hence no matter how much parking space is provided, more is demanded. Accordingly, taxpayer funded park and ride expansion has to be expanded in a judicious manner.
  • Integrate over 7 years ago
    Light rail needs to be considered as part of a comprehensive integrated transport policy for the Sunshine Coast, not looked at as a stand alone solution. We need to be able to move efficiently not only within the Sunshine Coast, but to link the Sunshine Coast with a fast inter-city connection. It's pathetic that we can't get from the Sunshine Coast to Brisbane or to Brisbane Airport on public transport, unless we have half a day to do it, with several changes of bus and train on the way, and with poor connections between bus and train services. And the Sunshine Coast integrated transport network needs to be part of a state and national transport network. Regional Queensland deserves to be better connected.
  • Joe Riba over 7 years ago
    There are some very good comments made and it is hard to disagree with many of them. However, I don't think that we always have to sacrafice one thing for another. The buses will need to improve and, light rail will be needed and, Camcos is also essential. These things do not need to be alternatives to each other. Image is very important for our region and the rail system should be used to boost our image. Our beaches are beautiful but we all know that this alone will not be enough to guarantee our lifestyle, environment and economy. There are many kilometeres of beach, and we can start with the Kawana strip which could become more of an attraction to tourists and locals if we could shrink the distance from population/tourist centres, and improve the visual appeal of Nicklin Way. I believe a light rail system would help prevent urban sprawl and boost our economy. The biggest single challenge is funding. Innovative solutions are needed. The coast needs big thinkers and the will to make this happen.
  • sunshine cove over 7 years ago
    Light rail will only work if it is not bogged down in official red tape either, State, Federal or Regional Council, therefore taking a generation or two to actually, no pun intended, 'get on the rails'.
  • Felix over 7 years ago
    Instead of implementing prestige projects to deal with the problems that unsustainable population growth will bring, let's nurture what's left of the serenity that sets this region apart from Brisbane and the Gold Coast. It's so easy to spoil and there's no way back, ever.If you'd like to live in a crowded place with great public transport - there's an ever increasing choice of big cities around the world, but please let's cherish what we have here.
    • CBLA almost 7 years ago
      I agree let us protect the serenity, I have seen 250,000 people come here since 1980 and I have seen first hand what population growth has done to this region. However to sit back and let things continue along the path we have been going down i.e. subdivisions and serviced by private car use will destroy our regions character. Light rail can help us protect what we all love about this region. This is not just a transport project; This project is about how we house the expected 250,000 people that will be coming to live here in the next 20 years around an efficient public transport corridor. It is about how we move those people and the people who already live here from their homes to the major activity generators on the coast. It is also about how we can protect the liveability and lifestyle of our much loved townships, I don't think anyone wants to see places like Eudlo, Mooloolah, Maleny, Eumundi etc... swell with sprawling subdivisions that don't have access to amenities without the use of a private motor vehicle, not to mention the damage that this will have on our much loved waterways and catchments.
  • lisa over 7 years ago
    I do not understand the logic of creating yet another transport route (light rail) when the existing ones do NOT work. A rail trip from the Sunny Coast to Brisbane is over two hours, expensive and no guarantee of a seat. Why extend a system that desperately needs an overhaul? Why not fix the existing rail network before creating another problem? Also, there is an existing bus network on the coast that is also ineffective. Why not look at creating FREE bus services from major housing estates to local shopping areas with the purchase of $10 or more from the shops in question? This is the model used overseas very effectively. The shops benefit from increased trade and the bus services are actually used (most buses on the Sunshine Coast run empty or with only a few passengers). Finally, the proposed light rail network would decimate areas of our natural coastline. Why would anyone want to ADD to the destruction of this beautiful place. Here's an idea, why not resurrect the old cane train tracks (the land and network crisscrosses much of the coast) and use that instead??????
  • spinstopper over 7 years ago
    For a start we need to get the buses working properly now. The buses do not go where people want, take too long to get there, cost too much and are not suitable for grocery shopping. At an estimated cost of 2 billion for light trams, that’s $6666 for every resident on the Sunshine Coast; it would be cheaper to buy everyone a motor scooter!Why doesn’t the council pressure the State government to build the Coastal rail line earlier? That would increase public transport along the growth corridor as well as to Brisbane and not cost ratepayers a cent. Buses can then link to the trains just like Brisbane.Finally let’s not forget the overhead powerlines these trams need to run, they are not very attractive.
  • HMM over 7 years ago
    I strongly believe in a light rail system if it is extended to Noosa to make the whole coast accessible. Also it needs to be integrated with improved bus and train services to enable locals and tourists alike to travel the coast easily, and get to the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane Airports without the frustrating and time consuming mix of transport currently required.
  • lisa over 7 years ago
    Again, I'd like to highlight the dire situation we already face at a State level with rail? Why create new links when the existing ones don't work? I understand light rail is to be for the Coast, but visitors from Brisbane would have to travel for hour and hours to get to Noosa from Brisbane because of the terrible connection.
  • Joe Riba about 7 years ago
    The debate about whether light rail will work cannot be separated from a discussion about density. Is the administrator of this site intending to open that discussion? In the long term the only choice for the coast is an increase in density or a continuing urban sprawl. Should we get this debate out in the open? What kind of city are we creating for future generations? Increased density in nodes along an intended rail line will greatly increase the prospect of success. Is Urban Sprawl more desirable?
    • Admin Commented Project Administrator about 7 years ago
      Hi Joe,The formal consideration of policy to establish development location and density is of course best held during the formulation of and public discussions on new town planning schemes and structure plans. Public consultation on these planning changes is mandatory and occurs at appropriate phases of the town planning process. The focus of the light rail project is however very much on the broader outcomes it can support in the community, including:• reducing car dependence• encouraging forms of urban development that provide a range of non-car dependant lifestyles• creating tourism friendly transport optionsAll of these points convey a theme for the light rail of providing a catalyst for new and exciting lifestyles in the light rail corridor. So while density is one consideration, the real debate centres not strictly on development densities or the height of buildings, but on how we can provide for lifestyle choices that have local services and attractions nearby, and concentrate demands for mass transit along the corridor. This approach is usually termed "transit oriented development". The project team is working with Sunshine Coast Council's Urban Design Advisory Panel to develop ideas for forms of urban development that achieve "transit oriented development" but are suitable to a Sunshine Coast environment. As an example, high rise apartment buildings are NOT an essential feature of "transit oriented development", whereas good pedestrian connectivity and a pleasant walking environment are. It is anticipated the report to Council on the pre-feasibility of the light rail project to be made later this year will canvas some ideas about transit oriented development, and these might provide opportunities for community dialogue on this important issue you have raised.
      • Joe Riba about 7 years ago
        Great to hear that ideas about TOD may be discussed later this year. As you say the light rail system is all about the structure of the urban environment. Buses do not transform the environment because the bus route can change over night. The greatest benefit of light rail is that it can transform the urban environment for the better. I do not see evidence that people understand this. Once the penny drops how will people react? I am concerned that people say "no" to what they do not understand. A public understanding needs to be developed, over an extended period, of the kind of beneficial urban changes that may be produced.
  • DebbieY01 almost 7 years ago
    One area where more efficient and reliable transport is needed is for university students all over the coast. There is nowhere near enough parking at the University with no plans for expansion (that I am aware of) and with ever increasing student numbers the situation will only get worse. The buses do not run regularly enough with students often arriving almost an hour before classes and not able to leave till almost an hour after classes due to inadequate timetables. If light rail has an option of being able to connect the University with the coast and allow students to travel in a more timely manner I am all for it as it would be of great benefit to many.
  • BrisPaul over 6 years ago
    Why stop the line at Maroochydoore? Why not all the way to Noosa?
  • rukario1122 almost 6 years ago
  • Frederic_dubus over 4 years ago
    Hi there,I was the Senior Project Engineer on the Gold Coast light rail, where for 2 years i saw the public views evolve as the project Grew and neared completion... there is 3 items i would like to quickly point out. 1- the locals, while heavily inconvenienced during the works, now see the benefit the rail has brought to Surfers Paradise, the project cleaned up streets, footpath, vegetation, removed old signs, redundant and damaged urban furniture, and refreshed parks, all the things that were left out by the gold coast council, and now the elders and the younger residents have a safe cheap way to travel along this new network, some local media tried to raise a controversy, to no avail, the locals (i am one of them are happy). 2- The tourists, they love the tram, it helps them to navigate, give them reference points, helps the whole family to travel around easier, and the younger ones to go around surfing safely and comfortably with their boards.... now 3- the authorities and infrastructure asset owners..... (and by extension all of us) by far the ones whom benefited the most out of this project, Telstra had their network rebuild all along the network, Energex had countless conduits and pits rebuilt , upgraded and future proofed, the optic fibre network was also overhauled, but the biggest winner of all is clearly Gold Coast Water, whom was loosing about $ 20 millions worth of water before the project as was reported in the locale paper, the project has refurbished over 20km of pipelines, all of them well passed their use by dates, leaking and cracked, not maintained due to the "replace when it fails" policy in place and made safe some ridiculous situation where GCW own standards had not been applied, especially in relation to thrust blocks and damaged and inoperable valves and fire hydrants. All the costs for the upgrades were born by the project not the government, there was absolutely no costs incured to Telstra, Gold Coast Water. Energex or APA, for al the works carried out on their network, it was all paid for by the project constructors. I would benefit from a light rail on the Sunshine coast ? easy, my children's grand parents (who live there) will have reliable water, communications, electricity for the next 20 years, they will be able to safely travel and when we visit our kids will also benefit from the same....There will be a lot of jobs created locally for this project and it will benefit the region during and after it's completion.