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Would you use light rail on the Sunshine Coast instead of your car?

almost 7 years ago

We love our cars here on the Sunshine Coast. Often through necessity as we just can’t get to some destinations efficiently without them.

But if you had a frequent, fast, affordable, comfortable light rail service along the coastal spine, would you use it?

We’re interested in hearing just what it would take for you to leave the car at home for some trips? When and where would you be more likely to use light rail? What would stop you from using it?

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  • Landseer over 1 year ago
    Trams are so limited for passenger access swaping modes of transpor & missing connections.Better way is dedicated bus only roads which is cost effective & flexibleEg a crash that blocks the tram crossing affects all rams but a bus can divert aroundCan enter most existing estates & new areas designed for bus access loopsSay you ran from Beewah station , meet all trains then have say six bendi buses to start with then expand, they express to a suburb then become limited stops around that areaSay one to Pelican waters area , one each Direct to Caloundra, Belvista estate, Maroochydore to Bli Bli Twin Waters Airport Coolumthen the other two limited stops enroute to Kawana Nicklyn way & Little Mountain & Sunny Coast Hosiptal , All Running to Nambour And similar set up from Nambour station to Coolum via Yandina , twin Waters Bli Bli MaroochydoreDirect to Maroochydore then to Beewah Direct to Noosa and others via Eumundi Cooroy etcThis then opens up Caloundra south development to a transport system in the futureThis way people convenience is better only one mode swap eg bus then train to Brisbane as the buses tour the suburb the express to Beewah or Nambour
  • Trainsaregreat over 1 year ago
    Yes I would use light rail and so would my family, light rail needs to be fast, frequent and stop at all major destinations. It also needs to avoid areas that could potentially flood.
  • Sharni Lung over 2 years ago
    I would not use it if there is no effecient transport to bring me to Mooloolaba in the first place. If I had to drive as far as Mooloolaba from the hinterland edge, I would just keep driving to my destination.
  • Kazzamays about 3 years ago
    Why would the option of a light rail to Landsborough Station not have been considered as there are hundreds of commuters that travel by car from the Sunshine Coast suburbs to travel to Brisbane for work each day. The traffic that would be illuminated from the very busy Caloundra Road.Even if it ran like the monorail that was in Sydney above and off the ground.
  • Keith about 4 years ago
    I cannot envisage using light rail. I don't use the bus network at the moment so can't see that a light rail would be substantially different, especially for movement from Maroochydore to Caloundra or point in between.What data do you have to substantiate this significant investment in local infrastructure? Is the local bus network oversubscribed? What benefit is there in developing a light rail network over the existing bus infrastructure other than other cities around the world are investing? What has been the Gold Coast's experience? The Gold Coast light rail is an unattractive addition to the cityscape. I would be very interested in seeing the data that shows that this would be beneficial to Mooloolaba. The solution has to be right for the future of Mooloolaba. You have not given us any definitive information that demonstrates that yet you want us to invest our hard earned ratepayers dollars in this.
  • drad about 4 years ago
    My concern with this project is whether the light rail will be obselete by the time it is up and running. Driverless cars are already being tested on roads in the US and are mooted to become commonplace in the next 15 to 20 years. Most people would prefer to be transported direct to their destination than having to walk to a stop and wait for a bus or train. A very quick internet search already identifies serious concern for the future of public transport.http://publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Technology/a/How-Will-Self-Driving-Cars-Affect-Public-Transit-And-Public-Transportation.htmhttp://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/01/what-will-happen-public-transit-world-full-autonomous-cars/8131/http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/the-report/could-driverless-cars-render-public-transit-obsolete/
  • lizzidman about 4 years ago
    I would use any form of public transport if it was cheaper than using a car. Sadly it is more economical to drive a V8 car than use the busses. I feel embarrassed to see the busses in my suburbs cruising around with mostly empty seats. 80% fare increases in the last 3 years will do that to a transport system. Peer through the tinting/advertising on the busses, or take a ride and see for yourself, the revenue from the advertising on the busses must be all that keeps them viable! And now the designers of the bus system propose a Light Rail network to compete with the busses. Last week we travelled by train, Landsbourough to Fortitude valley, almost $40 for two people off peak, not cheap, but the ride back home makes me wonder why not just extend the existing heavy rail system, the rolling stock already exists. As you pass Petrie you see the new Morton Bay rail extension earthworks, the contractors are experienced, why not give them the Sunshine Coast Rail extension project to move on to after the Morton project is finished? It could work so easily, but I am thinking towards the light rail as being a done deal, the public submissions are just a polite formality.Summary, light rail = NO. I think an easement for the Heavy Rail has been allowed for as it appears as dotted lines on older maps, I recommend the best proposal is to extend the Heavy Rail network to the Sunshine Coast.
    • MartyvH over 3 years ago
      In my opinion public transport today is expensive precisely because of the low patronage and I don't see the situation improving any time soon. The lack of bus shelters at most stops in Queensland's hot, carcinogenic sun does not help. By the way, Sunbus is paid per kilometre that the bus travels, not by passenger numbers, so there is no incentive for Sunbus to improve anything. If there is well executed, cheaper public transport, it will be more attractive to passengers.
  • bigalonthecoast about 4 years ago
    If you look at the frequency of light rail trains and the cost to the public of losing a road lane in each direction it seems very inefficient to me to have a light rail system which steals away a usable lane from car drivers forcing them into one lane with no overtaking options. This is bound to create congestion and worsen not improve the current situation. A more efficient bus system with some express services sharing the existing road network would have to be far more efficient (and cheaper) than rendering a whole lane in each direction void for all road uses except for the occasional passing light rail train. Seems to me a very inefficient way to move people around when the cost to the community is the loss of our existing lanes and the reduction of our existing road infrastructure. Alan
    • MartyvH over 3 years ago
      I think the "artist's impression" picture at the top of the page is a bit misleading. There is no guarantee that one lane of Alexandra Parade would be sacrificed in the final design. *Some* of the road traffic would be reduced simply because there is light rail. How much of a reduction it will be, will need to be investigated. It is critical that the thing has to be made attractive for people to use. There would need to be a guaranteed number of passengers ready and waiting.I also think it is highly likely that road funding will be decreased in order to fund light rail, since it's obvious there is no other government source. If it was a Public-Private Partnership, it would be more workable.
  • 8th habit almost 7 years ago
    Most of my car trips are for work and travel to or from the coast, rather than along it - and I also need to travel to different locations for work so light rail won't be suitable. If I am travelling from say MooIoolaba to Maroochydore I tend to walk along the beach. I think light rail will be good for low budget travellers (eg backpackers who aren't renting a car or campervan) although there is still the problem of getting them to the light rail nodes as they may arrive on/depart from the coast by train or air. They would then have to lugg their backpacks / suitcases to their accommodation - often in our heavy rain. We don't have the fast rail to connect with it which makes light rail successful in European Cities, or the large number of admin jobs in one CBD such as Sydney. Our biggest centre of employment will be the Kawana Hospital - staff will be shift workers, may live close by or away from the 1 coast route of the LR and not necessarily want to travel by public transport after finishing their shift. The frequency of light rail and security will be an issue for anyone who may use it at night - remember a lot of our employment is shift work (or requires travel between 2 or more places of work during the day) so the light rail will require ongoing strong security staffing (not just cameras) and regular late night & morning trips to be utilised by workers (which will add to the cost). Shoppers tend to want their own vehicle for large shopping trips, and will shop locally for smaller shopping trips. The council would be better off investing in a fleet of electric 'council maxi-cabs' which do more tailored trips (providing a more secure, practical pick up and drop off service to all areas of the coast at the time when they are needed) create jobs for drivers who would not require a heavy vehicle or train drivers licence) they could be recharged at pick up hubs and the number could be adjusted to cope with demand. Some roads could have priority lanes for these vehicles if they get congested.
  • riskmanagement almost 7 years ago
    Living in Buderim, a light rail along the foreshore area [as currently planned] would be impractical for me. This would apply to the majority of the SC area
  • lisa almost 7 years ago
    I do not understand the logic of creating yet another transport route (light rail) when the existing ones do NOT work. A rail trip from the Sunny Coast to Brisbane is over two hours, expensive and no guarantee of a seat. Why extend a system that desperately needs an overhaul? Why not fix the existing rail network before creating another problem? Also, there is an existing bus network on the coast that is also ineffective. Why not look at creating FREE bus services from major housing estates to local shopping areas with the purchase of $10 or more from the shops in question? This is the model used overseas very effectively. The shops benefit from increased trade and the bus services are actually used (most buses on the Sunshine Coast run empty or with only a few passengers). Finally, the proposed light rail network would decimate areas of our natural coastline. Why would anyone want to ADD to the destruction of this beautiful place. Here's an idea, why not resurrect the old cane train tracks (the land and network crisscrosses much of the coast) and use that instead??????
    • ursula almost 7 years ago
      Lisa's reply and suggestion of creating FREE bus services from housing estates linked to purchases from shops is a great way of integrating transport and local retailers. It is working overseas; however, the culture of owning and driving a car in Australia is different to the rest of the world. We must be the only country where cars get to share the family home right alongside the master bedroom with almost the same comfort (are there any homes without the double lock up garage integrated into the family home?)Ursula
    • Admin Commented Project Administrator almost 7 years ago
      The proposed light rail service will be planned to connect with the future sunshine coast rail line from Beerwah to Maroochydore. It is not a replacement for the rail service to Brisbane. Council is currently planning the light trail project, while the sunshine coast rail line (previously known as CAMCOS) remains a Queensland Government project. The light rail is planned to go in areas that are already urbanised, and will improve the environment by providing a low noise, low emission alternative to high volumes of motor traffic.
      • lisa almost 7 years ago
        Thank you, however you do not address the issues I raise. There are already public transport services (buses) that are ineffective. Why look at recreating a broken system? Why is the Light Rail Project a foregone conclusion? As a rate payer and voter, I would like to see the business case for this project. As Ursula states, we all use our cars. Surely looking at ways to facilitate move this culture should be looked at first before spending the money on something people may not use. I would like to see Council better spend the money afforded to them through taxes. Just because someone puts forward an idea for Light Rail, doesn't mean it makes sense. What assurances can Council make regarding destruction of the environment? What motivational strategies are being tabled to get people to use it if you do proceed? For me, there is no motivation to use public transport when the ease, convenience, proximity to desired locations etc is far outweighed by using my car. The Sunshine Coast is a large stretch of land, and my travels can take me from Noosa to Caloundra in a day. Light rail will not be a viable option for most residents.
        • Admin Commented Project Administrator almost 7 years ago
          Thanks Lisa,Your points go the heart of the challenges for public transport on the Sunshine Coast. We are one of the most car dependent regions in Australia. There are many examples in cities and regions around the world, some with comparable levels of population to those of the future Sunshine Coast, where light rail has significantly added to the amenity and livability of that city or town. For light rail to be a viable alternative to the car for some trips on the Sunshine Coast, it would need to be fast, frequent, reliable and affordable. As it is envisaged as a ‘spine’ service for the Sunshine Coast’s most populated areas, it would also need to have reliable and frequent connections to the ‘feeder’ bus services. Light rail on the Sunshine Coast is not a foregone conclusion. It is a serious option with great potential. The Council resolution was to establish a Sunshine Coast Light Rail Taskforce with representation from council, business and the community with its role to be the development of the business case for light rail on the Sunshine Coast. Other options are also being considered in the business case and these are outlined in more detail on this website. Developing our urban areas of the Sunshine Coast on the presumption that everyone will be able to drive for all trips and park their car for free ignores the possibility of reduced availability of fuels and increasing energy costs. It also carries the certainty that as more and more people live and work in the region, larger and larger roads, and more and more car parks will begin to dominate the cityscape. The light rail project is testing the possibility of an alternate way to develop our region. The alternative, of doing nothing, will threaten the Sunshine Coast lifestyle and environment so valued by our community, as more people mean more cars, massive expansion of road networks and more pollution.Significant behavioural change would need to occur to create a meaningful shift from cars to public transport. A Sunshine Coast light rail service, as a new and improved standard of public transport, has the potential to motivate people to shift from car travel. While we note your comments on the quality of public transport on the Sunshine Coast, local bus services are generally found to be reliable and meet the needs of those people who use them. It is acknowledged that the frequency of rail connections to Brisbane need to be improved and it is understood the Queensland government continues to work towards that goal. You may be assured that once Council has considered the findings of the present studies, the community will be fully apprised of the results and given the opportunity to review the economic analysis.
          • lisa almost 7 years ago
            Thank you. My biggest issue with the light rail option is that an existing public transport option already exists - the bus network - that does not work. As you rightly stated, public transport needs to be "fast, frequent, reliable and affordable" The bus service on the coast is not any of those except perhaps frequent. I do not understand why valuable tax payer funded projects like a light rail network are being touted before the current option is fixed. Also having an "isolated" perspective regarding public transport, a "them and us" if you will, approach between Council and State Governments is short sighted and ultimately damaging to the success of any project. They cannot be looked at in isolation. Without one, the other is affected by association. I would urge Council to think more about fixing current problems before attempting to create band aids in new ventures. Otherwise the light rail will end up an expensive, little used, white elephant.
            • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
              Lisa, I agree. I think we have to look at why the bus service does not work and try to fix it. That would be a useful exercise in order to ensure that light rail does work. The worst that could happen is that the bus service would be improved. I was talking to a bus driver and he said that there is a requirement to service routes where there is no demand. If, this is true and resources are allocated to an area that cannot work (I assume this is done for political reasons) this means the resources are not available where they would be used, making viable routes ineffective also.
        • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
          LIsa, This is the earliest possible stage of an idea. The question being asked is whether it could work, and if it could work, then what would it look like. It isn't a forgone conclusion. But if we decide that it could not possibly work, and we decide this even before the idea is allowed to germinate then we could miss an opportunity. I know that I would not support a rail line that would destroy the coast line. So for me a light rail system that works would not look like that.
          • lisa almost 7 years ago
            Thanks Joe. I can't help but use past behviour to indicate future behaviour. Council's bus service doesn't work. The State Government's Rail network to Brisbane is slow, expensive and over capacity. Recently, I've witnessed either Main Roads or the Council (whoever is responsible for the roads) rip down old growth forest to widen two roads yet one of the roads is not even being used and the other it seems the trees were destroyed for no apparent reason as the road is not being widened. One of these cases involved trees in a supposed "national park" area. I am continually amazed at how all levels of government destroy our environment willy-nilly. We have to SAVE our current trees, not cut them down without thought. I cannot see how a new public transport network wouldn't involve the destruction of yet more trees. Again, if they used the existing land of the now defunct cane train tracks, there wouldn't be an issue.
            • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
              Hi Lisa, I do agree with you. I love our natural environment. I feel sad at how our native animals are treated, their homes destroyed without a second thought. I don't agree with our economic model that requires growth every year. It is a model that is doomed to fail as growth cannot go on forever, unchecked. But you and I cannot stop growth, all we can do is help to shape it. I believe light rail is a possible solution because, my hope at least, is that it might prevent urban sprawl with the continuous development of roads. My hope is that light rail can be used to shape the layout of the coast and contain the impact of growth. I would like the built up areas to be dense (not high rise) and housing estates to grow much more slowly. To encourage more people into higher density areas we have to make these higher density areas an attractive place to live, for people who want that lifestyle. This requires some real infrastructure, that hopefully does not involve roads and cars. If the built up area can be made to be exciting and convenient there will hopefully be less demand for housing estates in our green zones. Could it be buggered up? It could be, but I think we should aim high. I suspect that if the rail line is put in the correct location it will be hard to make too much of a mess of it.
              • lisa almost 7 years ago
                If they followed successful models for public transport from Europe and also focused on long term planning (which should have been done 50 years ago) they may stand a chance. So far I have seen no evidence to suggest government in this country has the foresight or skill to roll out a successful alternative to cars. The Sunshine Coast is a unique region and we should focus on preserving that uniqueness, which includes making better use of what we already have.
            • jachar64 over 6 years ago
              Firstly, the defunct cane train tracks are an old, unmaintained system that would not be able to provide the speed or comfort necessary for a successful light rail system. Secondly, if we sit back now and let the coast keep growing without drastically improving our public transport options the environmental damage would be incredible. The amount of land you need to destroy to create a light rail system is nothing compared to the amount of land you need to destroy to create an equal capacity road network, and that isn't even taking into account the pollution saved by reducing the amount of vehicles on the road.
    • GAGANB over 6 years ago
      Lisa, I think you need to understand a few things.. Australia in many ways is unlike every other country in the world. We are a massive continent with bugger all people in it (so there is bugger all money). And those people are spread out all over the place, hence why cars are so favoured. The best thing we can do is take a look at ALL other countries, find what does work and what doesn't, and find a viable option for our entire country. Not every which functions overseas would work here.Now to the Coast. I do agree with you that the current services are incredibly poor. I have been using public transport on the Coast for more than 10 years. It is unreliable (buses either depart early or arrive late), expensive (buses are getting ridiculously expensive, I wont even mention how much of a rip off taxis are) and not frequent enough (due to the large distances travelled, more frequent options need to be put in place).Connecting the Sunshine Coast (as far as I am concerned the Sunshine Coast should be recognised as Maroochydore to Caloundra, the rest of it is too far away to be considered..to me Noosa may as well be on another planet, it is so far away!) via Light Rail is a GREAT idea. You mention your concerns for the environment in relation to construction of the Light Rail system. The current proposal is to create an above ground system. So in effect all the construction which would be required is digging a hole to install the support beams. Of course I am talking about current roads in place to be upgraded with an above ground system. If you are concerned about new construction of new lines and such, geographically they would be considerably less damage to the environment, as opposed to creating new highways to commute the ever expanding level of morons who drive on our Coast roads (there are a few exceptions). And there is the whole pollution thing. If you are so concerned about the environment, why do you consider burning fossil fuels in your car to be a preferred form of transportation?You can probably tell, I do not drive a car. I think there are enough cars on the roads these days, too many in fact. Creating a system which significantly reduces traffic should be established. It comes down to the old catch 22. At the moment, people do not use the buses because it takes (as an example) 2 hours to get from Caloundra to Nambour, where driving you can get there within half an hour. Upgrading or improving the bus services would not function well, unless they introduced 'Highway Buses' which commuted from major bus stations (eg. Maroochydore to Caloundra via Bruce Highway). Until the 'gamble' of introducing a Light Rail system is completed, no amount of study or planning will be able to tell just how effective it will be. If the service right of the bat is reliable and gets good publicity (and is cheaper than filling the car with petrol, even gas) then the system will be profitable and effective for the Coast lifestyle.Have you been to Sydney or the Gold Coast, where Light Rail is effectively used? I have, and I think it is a great way to travel.I am not sure where I saw it, but I suggest you Google it - There is an image drawn up of the Light Rail proposal, most of which utilises current roads to create the new network (from what I could tell from the birds eye view, main example Nicklin Way). It has lines connecting Maroochydore to Caloundra, Maroochydore to Sippy Downs (University), Maroochydore to Sunshine Coast Airport and a continued line Maroochydore, Sunshine Coast Airport, Mt. Coolum.Given this service would cater for the majority of current bus services, those services could be recalculated to create more efficient routes across all areas of the Coast, like Buderim and Nambour.That same image I am talking about also shows the proposed Train Rail service starting at Maroochydore, heading south to Kawana 'Town Centre' and continuing through to Little Mountain (just off Caloundra), then heading west to connect to the current train line services. I am sure in the event the Train Rail is introduced, more frequent train services will be created to connect the Sunshine Coast with Brisbane.I have been saying for a few years our entire country needs some sort of 'Bullet Train' service, as we are so spread out!I think for this system to function, it would need to have a separate Light Rail system in the hinterland (where geographically possible). That system would be linked to Landsborough Station, which could then use the proposed Train Rail to commute between the two systems (effectively you would catch Light Rail - Train - Light Rail. This would function well for someone who lives in the Hinterland, but works on the Coast, Maroochydore for example.)Well I think this would be a good time to end my small novel.. I hope you have not taken offence, my comments can sometimes become heated within a debate :)
      • lisa over 6 years ago
        Gaganb, I do not take offence. Most people don't debate ENOUGH about these things, and decisions are made without considering all sides of the argument. I simply think one should fix what one has before attempting to recreate it under another name. Public transport on the Coast doesn't work. Find out why, fix it, get it working THEN look at expanding it to include other services like light rail.My principle concern is the stretch on Kawana Island (Parrearra). If someone can correct me if I am wrong, it seems as if the proposed rail will cross the river over current mangroves towards Mooloolaba (between Double Bay and Island Point Villas - the land has already been allocated). There are already three bridges off Kawana Island that could be extended/expanded. Why "dig holes" in pristine mangroves? This is the environmental destruction I am speaking of. The best examples of public transport use can be seen in Europe where entire towns have been built AROUND public transport. Hop on hop off and it's all free.Take a look at what they are doing in Perth - building rail in between the highway lanes. Brilliant. Let's not just do something because someone at some time drew a line and said - this is where it is going.
        • GAGANB over 6 years ago
          I am not sure about that particular stretch of the proposed line, but from being a local to the Kawana area, isn't there a bridge less than 100m from Island Point Villas?If that bridge were to take an above ground Light Rail system, I am pretty sure it is currently large enough to take on the load (I am not sure about holding weight specifications) but it takes trucks, so having a LR train going over it shouldn't be a drama.It would be great if the Coast was built around public transport, but unfortunately 30ish years ago, whoever was in charge of the area, obviously didn't have a clue! Some crazy old 'horse and carriage' enthusiast!I think this proposal is in effect going to do what you desire, and create a 'spine' for the Sunshine Coast public transport network.Alot of alterations to the bus service have occurred over the years, and nothing seems to have worked. Even now Translink thinks the bus system is good. Honestly if I were to ever meet the CEO, I would have to punch him, try and knock some sense into him. They should have to use their own services on a regular basis! Even on a daily basis. Then they would understand what it feels like to be 'late to work'.So hypothetically the LR would at the very least be reliable (far less traffic and stop-start procedures occurring) to the 'main hub' of the Coast, the coastline (southern part at least), with future expansion north and west. This would give a strong backbone for the bus services to work off. Right now the bus system is spread out across all avenues of the Coast, and is just a shamble. If the buses were in tune with the LR and Rail, timing of the service would become more reliable, and in effect, people would begin to use it on a more regular basis.Right now, how would you get to the Sunshine Coast Stadium? (old Quad Park, Stockland Park) you would most likely drive. They have already torn up a good chunk of the turf there to accommodate for parking (which is a shame). Having the LR station quite close would mean shuttle services could be ran out of the stadium to pick up passengers and deliver them to the stadium within 5 minutes. Or if you are not lazy, you could walk the 500ish metres.On any given bus trip, I will walk at least 2km to get to my destination. Alot of people who own cars wouldn't even consider such a 'long' walk, and I guess that is why our nation is become the largest (and not by population). I am not saying a LR system would assist me in getting closer to my destinations, but all I am really concerned about is the reliability factor, so I can accurately time my trips in the most efficient way.In relation to building between the highway lanes in Perth, I am no expert on the subject, but isn't that space allocated for highway expansion? For example, how there are now 3-4 lanes heading down to Brisbane.All in all, the current proposal has 2 plans I wish to be implemented. The above ground LR system, and some kind of network of transit lanes and bus 'freeways' (sole roads dedicated to buses).There is alot of green space on the coast, we are going to have to cut into some of it. It is unfortunate, but also inevitable.
        • carlo3551 about 4 years ago
          That what we need, debate.I am willing to bet that when the feasibility study come out it will be already decided behind the seen who, when, and how is going to be build.At this stage I will fight it with all the means available.We need a real cost effective light rail, not a bottomless pit, a light rail that works, and give the right service to the people of the Sunshine Coast, and not a White Elephant because of greed and political interferences.So wach this space
  • ursula almost 7 years ago
    As a resident of the Hinterland I would use the light rail on rare occasions. Getting to the coast would still require the car, unless there would be adequate connections via bus or train.
  • gkg44 almost 7 years ago
    A light rail is a practical approach to reducing vehicles on the three north south highways. However, saying that I would have to agree with the basic comments of all who have posted thus far. For this to work, it would have to be frequent, inexpensive and reliable. In addition, the light rail would have to operate to the whole SC area - i.e up to Noosa and Eumundi and down to its current planned starting location. Otherwise it will be a total waste of money. Links to the other rail stations would be an essential. Of course the other considerations would be trip time, too long and patronage would not happen. In summary, the Light rail would have to be Frequent, Fast, inexpensive, reliable, have links to other rail stations.
    • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
      I believe that for light rail to work it would have to service an area between population hubs/ work centres. I don't think that a light rail system built to service thinly populated areas of the coast would work because of the cost to install and service relative to the number of potential users. A light rail system that services a relatively short line high density area from Caloundra/Kawana to Maroochydore could be frequent, fast, and inexpensive. I would of course like the whole SC area to be serviced but I can't see any scenario where such a system would work at least until after the most obvious line area has proven itself.
  • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
    The coast is a linear city. I think it would suit light rail. People in Buderim are not going to be able to use the service that runs along the coast. While I continue to live in Buderim I would not use it, except perhaps on weekends to go between beaches and shopping. The convenience of light rail combined with the beaches could encourage me away from Buderim and back to the coast. The Kawana town centre will be a population and workforce hub. The Maroochy Town Centre is also a population and workforce hub. In between these two centres there is Alex, Mooloolaba, Kawana Shopping Centre and the Kawana beaches. All would be natural stops. If as our population continues to grow we continue to spread out into the hinterland then light rail will not work, nor will any other transport system. If however the convenience of light rail and the hubs which support light rail continue to grow in density (rather than spread) then it would work. Which comes first the urban design that allows light rail to work or the light rail system itself? Of course they need to be planned together. Does the Stockland company have an opinion? Do they support light rail? The real question is whether the sunshine coast people support increased density in certain areas or will they allow urban sprawl to continue.
  • Joe Riba almost 7 years ago
    Can you add some project news and indicate if you are still on target for Pre-feasibility and rapid economic appraisal - April 30 2012
    • Admin Commented Project Administrator almost 7 years ago
      Hi Joe,Work on the pre-feasibility and rapid economic appraisal is progressing well. However the State government has delayed the 2012 Council elections by a month until April 28th and the report to the newly elected Sunshine Coast Regional Council is now not expected to be made until at least late May. The community will be advised of the study findings and Council’s decision whether to proceed to phase 2, a full business case, as soon as possible after consideration by the new Council.Also expect to have an update on the Taskforce very soon - more details will be posted.
  • Metatron over 6 years ago
    I like the idea as I don't own a car. What is the proposed method to link Nambour to this plan? It might also free up some buses to go and do alternate routes. To those that complain about the existing rail network, you need to contact your local State MP. There are 7 in our region of which 6 are LNP(a speaker, Health Minister and the Envionment Minister). demand that they recommence the project before 2014.
  • mzee about 6 years ago
    I'd use light rail instead of a car if it was going where I wanted to go and if I could either reach it without personal transport or otherwise where there is a parking lot -- like at train stations.
  • rukario1122 over 5 years ago
    I think that I'd use it, only if it gets from Pt. Cartwright to Bli-Bli. That'd be pretty good, as that's where I may get a job in the future
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  • Ian Wright over 3 years ago
    The light rail has been given to broad a task. should it not be kept as a transport system for access to the airport, shopping centres, hospital and a tourist, delivering the tourist to the holiday high rises. the public have there cars, Club busses, public buses. Council bike paths & walking paths.If the light rail gets any bigger will have a greater Tax burden than what we already have inherited.
  • Stevescott about 4 years ago
    No definitely not, I believe the light rail will add to congestion by making dual lane roads back to single lane, such as along Alex parade. The time factor also needs to be considered for example by the time I find a park in Mooloolaba to catch the light rail and the stops along the way will at least triple travel times than a car.
  • bigalonthecoast about 4 years ago
    I feel that the light rail is a bad idea whist ever it contemplates taking up road reserve to create the network. Doing this reduces the number of lanes available for cars which defeats the purpose. The first major problem I noticed when looking at the rendered image for this concept was that it showed Alexandra Parade as being reduced to one lane in each direction. This would be a disaster for traffic in this area. I have seen the effects of this being implemented in larger cites where fully functional lanes were taken exclusively for buses and taxis. This forced the remaining traffic into fewer lanes resulting in much more significant congestion problems for the bulk of people who use cars to get around. This is a bad idea for our coast. It is too expensive, and unless it were to be kept outside of the existing road reserves would result in a worse outcome for the coast. Better to invest in better, road networks. We have done a good job with this in recent years. Please please keep any proposed light rail off our roads.
  • sarahfinch about 4 years ago
    No. I wouldn't use it because it will not be going where I live and work! And if Council is not going to allow more compact and walkable developments in the hinterland rail towns that already has a rail a network - what makes them think people are going to use a light rail service. The Gold Coast can only just now afford light rail because it has compact and dense urban form. We are deluding ourselves if we don't want to be the Gold Coast but want light rail!
  • Noel about 4 years ago
  • anonymous_survey_user_105 about 4 years ago
    Yes, I work from home in Caloundra but would love to be able to get to Moolooaba or beyond for dinner without spending 150 in a cab, or pulling my hair out on the Nicklin Way (worst traffic lights in the world). Think it would set a good corridor for transport which can then be built around which is visible and encourages people to use it - having lived in Europe public transport isnt always cheap (I find work trips to Brisbane reasonably priced and comfortable), but it is a load more effective vs trying to find a park in town and if we add another 50-100000 people here in the next 15 years you wont be able to find a park for boo at some of the big shopping areas. But the Council has to make sure they are looking at the feeder services correctly, to make sure they are frequent as well. Waiting an hour for a bus doesnt work, and buses on the Nicklin Way dont necessarily work because they take more time (there is no priority) once you factor getting to and from the bus stop.
  • carlo3551 about 4 years ago
    Yes I would use the Light rail if its beneficial in reducing the CO2 emissions and go near shops.I have been waiting for the Feasibility Study to be produced because I have done some studies on the feasibility of the project, for 2 billion it will not get 32 Km but probably only 12-14 km if we take account of the Gold Coast blow out, so where do we stand now?I will present my alternative (down to earth) costing, route and scheduling in due time.By the way I am a professional working on major projects around Australia and taking sometime off after working on project like LNG, Mines and Production facilities.
  • westbrookd about 4 years ago
    Yes most definitely. The existing 600 bus is already very frequent (every 12 minutes) and convenient but in the future, a light rail would be more attractive and reliable once the population and congestion increases. If you want to avoid driving and want good public transport, then live where the PT is best. If you prefer to drive, then live further away where PT is more limited. It's simple really when choosing where to live.
  • Pelican Waters about 4 years ago
    I am sure we need a rail system perhaps a combination of light and heavy because if it is to work it needs to cover the whole Sunshine Coast and link with the rail to Brisbane at Nambour and Beerwah so car usage can be minimised. I currently use the train to Brisbane when going to the city and beyond to Toowong for medical appointments requiring use of the car to Mooloolah or Landsborough . There are often tourists on the train coming to the Coast who would be much better served if they could get to their destination by rail and we need to get the locals off the 'Bruce' away from the ever increasing congestion. In short Yes!
  • HMM about 4 years ago
    I would use light rail...but it won't extend to Noosa where I live! So it is really only a partial Sunshine Coast service.
  • robyntan about 4 years ago
    Yes I would prefer Heavy rail or Light rail instead of using the car. It must connect from the existing heavy rail line (eg. connect at Beerwah) and it must go through Caloundra South, Kawana and Maroochydore. Drawbacks of light rail - there is too much stop and start and it is obstructed by cars. I prefer heavy rail. Light rail must have a dedicated, unobstructed path - no cars or pedestrians blocking route - to be economically useful. Elevation is too costly. Buses can fill in gaps. Thanks.
  • dlrmatrix about 4 years ago
    It would be awesome some traffic relief from the nicklin way and now the already busy Kawana Way which will get busier as the health precinct area is build - the time is now to act and build for a future of the sunshine coast.